Response to the Logician: 070903:
Part II of VI
Logician: …and quite simply put, the universe allows life to exist within it.
Djs: I would suggest, it is not the universe which ‘allows’ anything, but rather the universe was ‘created’ as a tool, to advance a specific purpose, namely, ‘a’ means by which God circumvents ‘eternal recurrence’.
Logician: I use the euphemism “lab-rat” to coin a phrase, I should be more careful with the words I use to describe a situation, but this is an accurate phrase of what your work implies.
Djs: If it is an accurate phrase, why be ‘careful’ in using it? To suggest we are ‘lab-rats’ is inaccurate. Lab-rats have no free will. Lab-rats are ‘controlled’.
The model of symbiotic panentheism is a metaphysical model of reality which clearly and emphatically demonstrates that we as individuals and thus as a species have free will. The model clearly demonstrates we are not ‘controlled’.
We, therefore, are responsible as individuals for our actions and the repercussions said actions generate.
The difference between lab-rats and human individuals:
Lab-rats are not responsible for their actions.
Humans are responsible for their actions.
Logician: I do not suggest that we should not explore the concept of first cause, I think that it has merits and could quite easily be true, but then again there are other options than a singularity theory, should they be summarily dismissed?
Djs: I don’t know. What options other than a singularity theory specifically are you suggesting?
Logician: The big bang theory is a very, very recent development in human philosophy, and so exploring it is a “must” if we are to evolve in our thinking.
Djs: The big bang theory is in essence a singularity theory. The ‘creation’ of ‘the’ physical universe.
Logician: You state “Religion by definition was never a concept of logic. Religion is not based upon logic.” I totally disagree. I believe that religion was the logic of those who wrote it, or to put it in other words, it was the understanding therefore the logic of the time, which tried to explain life.
Djs: I suppose one could argue such a premise.
Logician: Djs: If so you are a very unusual individual, but then the very fact you think independently, demonstrates you are an unusual individual.
I take this as a compliment
Djs: As intended.
Logician; Now for your question;
My thesis is totally different from yours. I deal with real things in real time, I have an answer that works within a small time frame, and within my own lifetime.
Djs: In terms of ‘a small time frame’ we think similarly although the model I am proposing also has answers that work with a large time frame as well as no ‘time’ frame and also extends understanding beyond our own physical lifetime and ‘beyond’ our immortal existence frame.
This is the first means by which the metaphysical model ‘symbiotic panentheism’ demonstrates its validity through its broader abilities to answer age old metaphysical questions.
Logician: …I take all of human behaviour and explain life as a human in human terms.
Djs: Sp (symbiotic panentheism) goes beyond ‘human behavior’ and ‘human terms’.
This is the second means by which the model symbiotic panentheism demonstrates its validity.