Response to the Logician: 070603:
Part II of III
...JCLogician:
Oh, yes, because you were introduced to the supposed myth of Atlantis (as were we all) you used it in your work. So allow me to “diss” this folly too. I am sure you know of the last ice age and its effect upon the water levels around the world? They were approx. 400 meters lower then they are today and because humans live on the coastlines, for the thousands of years the ice trapped the water, civilisations grew on the coasts. When the ice-cap retreated; the levels rose and submerged them all. In fact every coastline around the Mediterranean and
Your envisionment of meeting other life forms within the galaxy at Alpha Centurai is so predictable it’s unreal. To believe that the next form of life we meet will be inferior to us is shocking, coming from a man who wants to profess respect. I can only think that you have seen far too many episodes of science fiction series, who for the life of them can never imagine beings greater than ourselves without have some sort of Achilles heel for us to show our “greatness” as beings made in the image of the creator nonsense.
The “penal colony” theory has two hopes of being true, one called Bob and the other called No. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, and if it did the rest of the piece doesn’t refer to the original place our ancestors came from, surely that would be our quest to return to our former selves. You do not describe the search for them. If we are truly descendants of some sort of mega humans who felt our ancestors were terrible enough to abandon them here, would we not when we had grown, search for them? In the thousands of years away from them surely they would have evolved even more and so we could never be like them. But to say that my ancestors and yours were not good enough only brings about a theory that they are still around and watching and waiting for us to “mature” enough to be welcomed within their society again, wouldn’t that make them the ideal candidates for the “gods”? If they were it seems as if the holier-than-thou-human need for worship-because-we-said-so hasn’t left the originators of our species even after all of these years. I for one think this trait of expectance piety is one we should rid ourselves of as soon as possible.
There are without a doubt beings that are far superior to us, alive in this galaxy and throughout this universe, logically! If you look at this planetary system it is an infant in comparison to other places in our own galaxy. If life could find purchase here it can find it elsewhere too. If our planet and galaxy were the oldest in the universe you could surmise that this is the only place where life exists, but because it isn’t, it make perfect logical sense that life flourishes throughout the known universe and beyond. It’s incredible to think that we can see the entire universe, we used to think the universe was the stars visible to the naked eye for millennia and now because we can see further we also see more, our vision is still blurred by the magnetosphere of the sun, so even Hubble suffers from a cataract so to speak. We are far too proud and that brings about an arrogance.
Djs: Again, thank you for reading the work, In the Image of God.
Within the work, In the Image of God, there are thirty three sequential essays. Each essay is divided into three parts, First: The dilemma. Second: What our present day approach to the problem would generate or does generate. Third: How the understanding, ‘…and God created man in His image and in the image of God created He man’ would change our approach to the dilemma stated and thus change the outcome.
Essay introductions 1 – 2 and 24 – 33 are based upon actual events. Essay introductions 3 – 23 are potential problems presented via science fiction themes.
JCLogician:
Right let’s approach this bit about God borrowing us a piece of its soul to learn. What is it you will have us believe it will learn? Humans have been the same since time in memorial. They live exactly the same way they always have. There is no difference from when we built
Djs: In part you are correct, however, when one examines each individual as a separate entity, one finds each individual experiences the physical uniquely from all other individuals. What has been attained through unique experiencing is a unique knowing which adds uniquely to the Whole of knowing, adds uniquely to God’s knowing, or in essence causes God to ‘grow’ in its knowing.
JCLogician:
The dominate ones tell the less dominant what to do and they do it for fear of death and or damnation. When physical dominance failed then dominance through wealth and status took over.
Djs: Again you validate my point as to why the other half - The individual deserves the respect given God.
- if not unintentionally ignored, may have been purposely ignored.
JCLogician:
In your work you give the perspective global population of about one hundred billion, I guess you could have used any number, but why is God sending more and more of itself into this supposed void to learn for?
Djs: If God expands its knowing, God circumvents ‘eternal recurrence’. If God is omniscient but has no means of expanding Its knowledge base then this total knowing combined with an eternal existence interprets into God eventually reaching the end of Its knowledge and beginning the process of reviewing Its knowledge. Thus God is faced with no other choice but to repeat Its review over and over and over and… Nietzsche coined the phrase ‘eternal recurrence’ to describe the dilemma.
A possible answer to the question: ‘…why is God sending more and more of itself into this supposed void to learn for?’: Being a rational being God would most likely want to circumvent ‘eternal recurrence’, circumvent ‘Groundhog Day’.
JCLogician:
You stated that there are only two states of existence; growth and decay and to get around the equilibrium paradox for God you sent bits of it here so it could grow in knowledge, well what happens when it thinks its learned enough?
Djs: When God ‘…thinks its learned enough’, God, like any entity with free will can choose to stop learning.
JCLogician:
Is God that greedy it needs to send more of itself to balance out something you have invented?
Djs: I don’t understand. Are you suggesting the desire to learn is a ‘greedy’ trait?
JCLogician:
Anyway why place a human understanding of balance into the being of God?
Djs: I do not ‘see’ humans as human, rather I see them as divine entities made in the ‘image of God’ and as such I see ‘humans’ capable of divine thinking. Divine thinking is the very basis of Metaphysics.
JCLogician:
It is not human and therefore does not need to follow the rules made up by us.
Djs: I agree, God is not human, rather humans are divine.
To be continued: Part III of III
JCLogician:
Who says God needs to...